Sunday, October 18, 2009

Busy Intersections are No Place for Chilren

Next Tuesday, October 27th, from 4:30 to 6:30 p.m. at Raytown City Hall (10000 East 59th Street) the Raytown Board of Aldermen is conducting a public hearing to review and provide input on the draft City of Raytown Community Planning Priorities Study. A draft copy of the study can be obtained on the city's website at or by contacting Mr. John Benson, Senior Planner for the City of Raytown at 737-6075.
This is the Raytown community's opportunity to provide feedback on development and reinvestment priorities for the future. The meeting time is not very convenient for most working individuals, but it is chance for the public to be heard.
Busy Intersections Are No Place for Children by Greg Walters Raytown has a unique soliciting ordinance that requires individuals begging for change on street corners to obtain a license to do so. The license does not cost anything. The law also requires that those soliciting on street corners wear reflective vests as a matter of safety. As I drove up Raytown Road on Saturday I saw a couple adults (wearing safety vests) and about a dozen children at the intersection of Gregory Boulevard and 350 Highway. The children were walking out into the traffic asking for change for a basketball team. None of them were wearing safety vests. If an entire vehicle can be lost in the notorious “blind spot” we have all experienced then it stands to reason that a child is at greater risk of being hit by a vehicle. The police should be aware of the safety vest requirement. And, it should be strictly enforced. The Board of Aldermen should take the ordinance one step further. A busy traffic intersection is no place for children to be milling about between cars. It is a safety issue the Board of Aldermen should look into. High School Football Standings O'Hara High School.....................7 wins / 1 loss Raytown High School...................2 wins / 6 losses Raytown South High School............5 wins / 3 losses LAST WEEK’S RESULTS O’Hara 55 / Lincoln Prep 0 by Brother Richard Geimer On October 16th, the O'Hara Celtics won their first District game defeating the Lincoln Prep Tigers 55-0. It was O'Hara's Homecoming Game. Scoring 21 first quarter points, the Celtics had two TD runs by T. J. White for 11 and 30 yards along with a 2 yard scamper by Terrell Johnson. Julian Gidley kicked an extra point while Keon Young and Tyler Houser combined for a safety tackling the Lincoln quarterback in the end zone. Four additional touchdowns were scored by the Celtics in the second quarter. Terrell Johnson scored on a 7 yard run, Chuck Preston scored from two yards out, Joe Melchior caught a one yard pass from T. J. White, and Raphael Spencer had a TD run for 6 yards. At halftime the Homecoming queen and king were announced: Katie Huber and Travis Peter. Alumni from O'Hara's State Championship team thirty years ago were honored and a special award was made for Mary Jo Post Sandburg '71 for achievements made over the years. With the running clock, the Celtics managed one more second half touchdown: Terrell Johnson scored on a 14 yard run in the third quarter. Raytown South 33 / Truman 21 By Kevin Easley The breaks that went against the Patriots in the first half typically came on special teams. The Cardinals jumped out to a 14-0 lead before either team had picked up a first down. Ray-South senior Phillip Kind returned a punt 53-yards for a touchdown and senior Eric Brantley later returned a blocked punt for another score. "The margin of victory was special teams," Truman coach Craig Lewis said. "If we could have just taken care of business there it wouldn't have been quite as bad I'm sure." But after a slow start the Patriots would battle back to cut the Cardinals' lead to six after junior wide receiver Adam Farrell caught a 52-yard pass from sophomore David Franklin late in the fourth quarter. With 2:16 remaining the Patriots found themselves lining up for an onside kick that could have given them the ball back with a chance for a dramatic victory. But Ray-South senior Darrien Bruster recovered the kick and moments later senior Alex Sanders scored on a 52-yard touchdown reception from senior quarterback Dennis Tanner. Tanner finished the game with 213 all-purpose yards and two touchdowns while wearing the No. 19 instead of his usual No. 10 in honor of his teammate Courtney Green. Green, a senior receiver, underwent knee surgery on Friday and will miss the remainder of the season. GO TO "SPECIAL TEAMS PROVE TO BE THE DIFFERENCE" by KEVIN EASLEY at Raytown 34 / Northeast 12 NO REPORT Raytown South Freshman Football Update Last Week...The Freshman football team hosted the Bluejays from Raytown and ended up in a tie, 8-8, after overtime. The Cardinals had too many turnovers on offense, but the defense gave up only two points on a conversion after a kickoff return for a touchdown. Last night...The Cardinal freshman football squad hosted Lee's Summit West last night suffering their first loss of the season, 8-0. The team will travel to Ruskin next Wednesday for their last contest of the season. Their record stands at 5-1-1. O’Hara 10 / Ruskin 0 in Soccer Led by Jerry Rellihan's three goals and Kyle Quirk's shutout, the O'Hara soccer team won a 10-0 game with Ruskin on October 16th. It was the Celtics' 5th win in 15 games. Kevin Hogan, Matt Shelton, and Taylor Mathews each had two goals, and Julian Gidley got one. O’Hara Girls Volleyball Ranked #1 On October 13th, the Missouri Volleyball Coaches Association State Class 3 Ranking has the Archbishop O'Hara High School Celtics RANKED # 1. O'Hara's win-loss record is 15-4. Ranked #2 is De Soto with an unblemished 24-0 season. O'Hara is the defending State Champions. Ranked #3 and #4 are Saint Francis Borgia and Notre Dame Cape Girardeau. Five O’Hara Softball Players Named to All West Central Conference Five softball players from Archbishop O'Hara High School were named to the All West Central Conference Team. The three that made the First Team were infielder Andi Davis, outfielder Kellie Bachkora, and utility player Ashley Clark. Making the Second Team were pitcher Allison Clark and outfielder Brittany Gallatin.


Greg Walters said...

You may have noticed that with this month's sewer bill there was a notice that the city intends to cut back the days of operation of the recycling center from four days a month to two days a month.

The notice says to visit the city's website at for more details.

So, I did. The only detail there was a press release from 2008 saying that they will be open four days a month.

All of this re-affirms my belief that the Raytown City Hall has become the definition of dysfunction.

What is even worse is that this is being done less than one month after city hall jacked up property tax rates despite dropping property values.

At the time, one of my Aldermen, Joe Creamer, spoke out at a City Council meeting saying he had to raise taxes or reduce services.

Guess he thought I wasn't listening.

Wake up, Joe! Going from four days a month to two days a month is cutting the service in half! You got your double digit property tax increase. Now keep your word to the tax payers.

An interesting footnote to this story is that the recycling center is one of the few (if not only) service in Raytown that actually produces revenue for the city!

Pat Casady said...

This town has a terrible record of doing the wrong thing.
Giving away tax income and spending, then after realizing their mistake,
raising taxes to compensate for their ineptness.
The reason for lower property values and higher taxes, is a direct result of
City Hall's not doing the right thing for and by the taxpayers.
They make mistakes, we pay for them. However I doubt things will
ever change. There are at least seven elected officials that don't have
a clue what they are doing. All you have to do is look at the record
to see where their priorities are. Worrying about rental property
owners not keeping up their property when codes "could" issue tickets
that would do the same thing.
Recycling makes money for the city, therefore it's a bad thing in their
eyes. They are programmed to spend and waste, not save.

Andy Whiteman said...

The BOA is now having secret meetings by not conducting them on the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays of the month as required. I base my schedule on this. I was unable to attend the last meeting because it was on the wrong Tuesday. I had a dentist appointment that evening and rescheduling would delay my appointment several months. Since we now have sumary minutes the meetings are being kept SECRET since we are not allowed to know what was said. This secrecy needs to stop!

The taxes were raised and services cut. This is nonsense. Any idiot should know that cutting a profit making service will reduce the profit. Since the recycle center generates a profit, logic dictates that the hours be expanded. Evening hours on weekdays might get a better turnout.

Since this service makes a profit, it seems to me that the city could start its own curbside recycling. Designated days for each neighborhood could be set up once or twice a month and Public Works vehicles could pick up those areas. More recyclables would be collected. This is something everyone could participate in. I would gladly set my recyclables out but I refuse to waste gas to haul them to the collection center during day hours.

BTW, I still have my recycle containers from Colorado since I had to pay a deposit. The company refused to return the deposit unless I returned them during day hours. I don't function days and the company was a good distance, hence I still have the containers. When I moved here I was told I couldn't use them because they were the wrong color. How stupid.

Andy Whiteman

PS If more people in Raytown would vote, we could keep the idiots off the BOA. We need good people with conservative, logical thinking.

Anonymous said...

We vote for taxes for the street, Christine White moves to
use them elsewhere. We have codes inspectors for code
violations including rental property owners, Joe Creamer
wants to charge property owners a fee to rent homes to clean
up after renters. Codes people could and should make them
clean up while they are here. Of course the codes don't apply to
The safety tax, we were told would not go into the general fund.
After the tax increase was passed, it went into the general fund.
There is much more waste out of city hall and too little common sense.
We express we all want recycling in town but, almost every alderman
is against it. The people can't win with these people running the town.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me how to get codes to enforce housing codes? There is a house in my neighborhood that is slowly rotting away. I called them adn they said they would investigate but they never called me back. i don't know if they are doing anything about it.

Who do you call at city hall to get an answer to these questions?

Andy Whiteman said...

8:47PM, I suggest you call or email the codes office and ask for a status report. I sent Beth Linn an email and had a response from Andy Boyd the next business day. As for who to call, ask for a supervisor. Beth Linn is in charge of the Department if you need to go to the top.

If the building is a safety hazard, be sure to point that out. If it is a fire hazard, try calling the Fire Department.

Remember this is the Ghetto of Raytown, but if you are an elderly lady they will come after you.

Andy Whiteman

Greg Walters said...

I was reading through some old blog entries and came across one from Pat Casady. Pat had written about a friend of his who had recently purchased the housing development, Crescent Creek.

He told how the owner of the property had called the utility company to repair an ornanmental street light at the main entrance to the development. The utility company representative had told his friend that they had never been told of the burned out light.

Which caused me to wonder. We had posted a photograph of the burned out light about three months before Pat's post. In fact, we had emailed the codes department about the burned out light.

It could be that the utility representative was mistaken -- or -- it could be that something Richard Tush heard a couple of months back is true.

Richard had heard that a codes enforcement officer had said that they will not follow up on complaints turned in via this website.

We doubt that is "company" policy at City Hall. In fact, we have seen evidence that just the opposite is true -- specifically in problems that we have posted that have been taken care of -- like illegal signage and grafitti removed, removal of traffic hazards, improvements to street signage, etc., etc., etc.

However, the fact that the problem was allowed to fester for so long before being resolved is a concern. There is no doubt that city hall can get faster responses from utility companies that individuals (I've witnessed this first hand).

But if you have individuals within city hall who ignore problems because the "wrong" people brought it to their attention -- then you have a serios problem.

Let's face it. It should not take three months to replace a burned out street light bulb. Particularly one has high profile as the Crescent Creek example noted here.

Anonymous said...

For those who are keeping track of lost businesses, please add these to the list. Licata's Flowers is moving to Lee's Summit, Big Mamma's went to Crown Center, Blockbuster and the Dollar Store are closed or closing. I think we are only seeing the beginning of what the highest sales tax around is doing to small business. With so much of the city's budget coming from the sales tax, I wonder how long it will be before Mayor Bower and his group of bobble-head aldermen bankrupt the city?

Andy Whiteman said...

I think the logical and best thing to do is for the public to contact the utility or any business if there is an issue. I have called about street lights many times. The problem is KCPL ASSUMES it is at your house while the actual location may be blocks away. You have to get out of the automated system, speak with a live person, make sure they understand it is NOT at your home and give them the pole number off the tag on the pole.

The problem with calling city hall (while in many cases the city is the actual customer) is that the message somehow has to reach the person who has authority to interact with KCPL. I don't think the average city worker is going to hang up from a call and make the next call to KCPL even though it is the logical thing to do. Remember we are dealing with beauracy.

Andy Whiteman

Anonymous said...

This sounds like the Fascist Fief of Raytown:

Once upon a time the government had a vast scrap yard in the middle
of a desert. Congress said, "Someone may steal from it at night." So
they created a night watchman position and hired a person for the

Then Congress said, "How does the watchman do his job without
instructions?" So they created a planning department and hired two
people, one person to write the instructions, and one person to do
time studies.

Then Congress said, "How will we know the night watchman is doing the
tasks correctly?" So they created a Quality Control department and
hired two people. One to do the studies and one to write the reports.

Then Congress said, "How are these people going to get paid?" So They
created the following positions, a time keeper, and a payroll
officer, Then hired two people.

Then Congress said, "Who will be accountable for all of these
So they created an administrative section and hired three people, an
Administrative Officer, Assistant Administrative Officer, and a
Legal Secretary.

Then Congress said, "We have had this command in operation for one
Year and we are $18,000 over budget, we must cutback overall cost."

So they laid off the night watchman.

NOW slowly, let it sink in.

Quietly, we go like sheep to slaughter.

Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the
DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.... during the Carter Administration?




Didn't think so!

Bottom line. We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support
of an agency...the reason for which not one person who reads this can

It was very simple...and at the time, everybody thought it very

The Department of Energy was instituted on 8-04-1977.

Hey, pretty efficient, huh???


Ah, yes -- good ole bureaucracy.

HELLOOO! Anybody Home?

Anonymous said...

Wow, you are right about that high sales tax in Raytown. Just picked up a few items at Westlake and noticed the almost 9% sales tax that I paid. Going to have to make one more stop when I go shopping in Lee's Summit. The Westlake in Raytown is going to lose my business for the one in Lee's Summit. Raytown is rapidly becoming TOO EXPENSIVE for me to live here.

Anonymous said...

I believe the ribbon cutting ceremony for the new Wal-Mart
Is set for the 23rd of this month.
It will be another nail in the coffin for Raytown.
More businesses will be leaving, property values will keep
Going down and taxes will keep going up. More people
Will be trying leave this sinking ship so they can get
Some of their home investment money back.
Raytown will be no more in less than ten years.
I have spoken.....Nostradamus!

Andy Whiteman said...

1:53PM, How much does it cost to drive to Lees Summit? I am asking about the cost of gas, wear and tear on your car, and your time?

I value my time and the drive is not worth the few cents I would save.

Andy Whiteman

Anonymous said...

Just drove up 63rd Street through our fancy gateway. There's a Tech Nine poster fastened to one of the fancy gateway light poles.

How attractive!

Wonder how long our code enforcement officers will ignore it?

Doesn't Joe Creamer drive by that light pole every day on his way to work?

Andy Whiteman said...

9:49PM, People tend to take shortcuts and drive different ways. IE. My neighbor can't understand why I use 63rd instead of Gregory.

I believe in personal responsibility. Why don't YOU call or email codes and report it? I think many of the issues reported to this blog could have been handled in a simple way by simply calling codes or the in one case KCPL. I believe in the KISS system. Maybe I am a simple person.

Andy Whiteman

Anonymous said...

Andy,I'm already going to Lee's Summit anyway. I'm not making a special trip for one item. I have many friends and relatives that are living there and while I'm out there I will make a list and do my shopping,saving time, gas and MONEY. There are many things you can't buy here anyway.

Pat Casady said...

I don't think Anonymous 1:53 meant anything against
Westlake. The problem I hear from my customers and
friends that live in Raytown is the fact of too high taxes
and no service to go along with them. We see the gateways
going up and we see nothing being done for the taxpayers.
Raytown City Hall has spent millions on developers and
property like the old church land but, still no tangible
improvements for the people. Although they don't get out
and vote these people out of office they still complain.
I've told them I have an excuse, I only own property in
Raytown, I can't vote. Then I ask them, what's your excuse?

Anonymous said...


This Raytown's premier gateway. Joe Creamer drives by it every day on his way to work. The police department drives by it when they go to get their cars washed as the car wash. Blue Ridge is one of two major north street connector streets in Raytown (the other being Raytown Road), so that means they drive by it also.

Why should we have to report what they are seeing on daily basis? Why can't they just do the job they are paid to do?

Answer those last two questions and I will hand deliver the complaint up to the codes department.

By the way, it is the second light pole on the north side of 63rd Street just west of Blue Ridge. Yes, that is still in Raytown and, yes, that is Raytown's fancy light pole.

Andy Whiteman said...

10:36PM, You make a good point about Raytown stores not having what people want. Where I buy groceries is based on sales since I normally shop once every 3 to 4 weeks. When there is a good sale, I stock up. I shop Westlake, but for some items they have told me to go to Home Depot. For much of my shopping I go to Overland Park. I don't shop by tax rate but it seems just as high there.

Pat, Westlake has the same outrageous tax as Walmart. Sounds dumb but people go to Walmart to save $$$$ and then pay it to the Fascist Fief in sales taxes. Doesn't make sense. The people you speak with real excuse is they DON'T vote. WE can't get rid of bad politicians if people don't vote. They are voted in by a small minority.

7:52AM, Do you follow Joe Creamer to work? If he is like me, his focus is on getting to work, not looking for violations. (Probably running late.) The police are focused on law enforcement on a per call basis and also watch for speeders and traffic violators. They don't have time for code violations even though it is in their oath of office. Why not report it rather than wait on some city employee to notice it?

Quite frankly, my focus is on driving not signs on light poles. That is probably true with city empolyees who are driving that way. It sounds like this violation will never be enforced because no one will take the time to report it but rather will take the time to blog about it and wait for a city employee to notice it.

Andy Whiteman

Anonymous said...

I hate, hate, hate Wal-Mart. I know it sounds childish and I feel childish for saying it, but this new store brings out the worst in me. I hate the loss of taxes, I hate the loss of small businesses that we all know will be closing, I hate the lost of some beautiful green space that was lost, I hate the additional stop light on 50 Highway, I hate the lost of various jobs in town. I will never shop in that store. Please urge everyone to shop at all of our existing and longtime community stores and grocers. Apple Market, Ace Hardware, Smith Brothers, Crump’s Paints, Raytown Jewelers, tire and oil shops, Hallmark's, etc. Please Please support these businesses.

Ghetto Town said...

The Tech Nine poster seems very fitting for that part of Raytown. Lets look back to just a few months ago when there were weekly shootings at the new Quick Trip every weekend. Thank God they decided to do the right thing and still close that location at midnight during the weekend and reopen some time after 2:00 AM. It should be noted this is note the first time Quick Trip has done the right thing for those of us who live in Raytown. When they built that location, they built the building in Raytown, which ensure we receive the taxes from the sales. Even more important unlike the corporate giant Wal-Mart they didn’t ask for a tax break for building in our city. Now that is true community pride.

Now I wonder if the poster is of the rap artist Tech nine or the firearm. Both seem to be tools to promote violence and killing and are not need in civilized society. Sad both are also highly associated with the ghetto, but again look at what Raytown has become.

Anonymous said...

I did some research on this Tech Nine rapper and what I found out is very up setting to me and it should be to you also. He is a local KC guy who made it big in the world of rapping, but his raps are very distasteful. His raps talk about sex, drugs and violence.
What bothers me even more is that the city will do NOTHING to remove this trash from our city streets. Joe and Shane pass by this on their way to church every Sunday,Beth Linn passes it on her way home every evening. The mayor calls anyone who questions why things are or are not being done in the city of not being proactive. I am sick and tired of Joe, Shane and Beth doing NOTHING. We would be better off if we had Andy Tayor and Barney in charge.

Anonymous said...

i think tech nine grew up in kc about 78th and westridge just a couple blocks out of raytown...

Anonymous said...

The sign is down!

A big Raytown thank you to whoever made it their business to remove it.

Anonymous said...

Just in case you all did not see or go to the last council meeting the mayor said at the last meeting that he thinks that Beth Linn and her codes people are doing a very great job. Isn't that sad. He is not willing to listen to anyone even those who supported him.

We are the ones who live out here and have to deal with her Dept. and live with the neighbors who aren't willing to comply with the codes that all of the rest of us try to do.

I for one am very upset that the man I voted for isn't the man I thought he was. I honestly believed that he would be the change we needed. I'm truly sorry I wasted my vote.

Andy Whiteman said...

I was looking for the sign tonight and couldn't find it.

Remember Barney Fife and Andy Taylor are law enforcement and we are talking about codes. They knew how to deal with Otis but I think a rapper sign which borders on graffiti would be over their heads. Mayberry didn't have a ghetto problem.

I strongly feel that if Beth Linn was required to live in Raytown, she would see these things and it would be different. It is the Boards fault for hiring carpetbaggers. ALL tie wearing, chair warmers should be required to live in the city that writes their pay check!

Several years ago an animal control, person told me that it was impossible to enforce an ordinance against a neighbor because they are not impartial. Sounds crazy but I wonder if any of the violators listed in this blog have a codes officer living near them?

Andy Whiteman

Andy Whiteman said...

Warning: Obama to Sign Treaty Giving up US sovereignty

Pat Casady said...

I don't understand City Hall.
Several years ago they went after the hard working truck
drivers that once in a while parked their trucks in front of their
houses or in their driveways. Then it was anyone with a truck
with plates that were over eighteen thousand pounds, that
soon changed to twenty four thousand pounds. All the time the
smart ones at city hall were thinking that the trucks actually
weighed as much as their plates stated. Those heavy trucks
are hurting our streets, they said.
Many of these hard working truckers moved
out of Raytown. That brought in more renters that don't care
what their rented property looks like.
While this was going on, City Hall was going after
the downtown businesses trying their best to run them out of town.
Still yet, was the Community Development Director doing
his best to run every other business out of town or to prevent
new business from coming into town.
City hall kept hiring City Administrators, paying them huge salaries.
The first one talked them into buying the old church. We all know
how that cost taxpayers. The next collected his salary while
looking for another job. Both of these CA's cost the taxpayers
millions in wasted dollars.
My point? Back then they told each department and each other
what a great job they were doing.
Does anyone else see a pattern here?

Anonymous said...

To 10/21 anonymous We actually would be better off, MUCH better off if we didn't have the do nothing mayor we curently have. He doesn't know he works for the citizens and neither does his precious staff.

Anonymous said...

I would like to suggest if you have a problem in your neighborhood call Fox 4 problem solvers. Your results would be faster than working through city hall.

Pat Casady said...

I can tell you first hand that calling the media does work
and City Hall really doesn't like it either. However, I will
suggest this, keep records of how many times you ask
City Hall for help or call them and nothing is done.
That way you cover yourself, and it always helps to have
hard facts when you call the media.
Keeping records will help when your elected people
come around, that one time in four years we see them to
beg for your vote and tell us
how great they for us.

Andy Whiteman said...

Also there is a Watch Dog in the Red Star if you can find it. It use to be in the local section but since the format changed, I see the column only accidently. I think the email is I would like to see him bite an incompetant official at City Hall.

Andy Whiteman

Anonymous said...

Chris White sounds stupid every time she opens her mouth. If she knew as much as she thought she did she might have enough knowledge to fill up a thimble.

Anonymous said...

Looks like I spoke too soon in my congratulations of whoever removed the Tech Nine Poster from 63rd Street at Blue Ridge Cutoff.

I see today there is another one in the traffic island on Blue Ridge across from the Quik Trip. Mother Nature has pretty much turned it into pulp. But the unsighly glof left beind, and the wire that holds it up should be removed.

Guess its one of those "invisible" things our city employees cannot see.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about anyone else but it really upsets me that they are cutting back the number of days the recycling center is open.

How typical. A program that works, makes people feel good about themselves, is good for the envirnonment and those morons on the city council want to pull the plug on it.

What a bunch of simple-minded, backward thinking losers we have representing us.

Andy Whiteman said...

Who voted for these simpletons?

Andy Whiteman

Insider said...

Not many people that read this page.

It is really sad, though. Raytown was a leader in recycling when it originally opened its center. The center is a revenue producer for the city. It is something to be proud of.

Why would they take it away?

Because they do not care. You have a couple on the City Council, judging by their inaction, that are there for the $450 per month.

A couple others who appear to be power hungry and consider themselves great leaders.

A couple who really believe they are doing the best they can for th city.

The rest think their job is to do what city staff tells them to do.

You have a mayor who is so opportunistic that it is shameful.
Two years ago he spent more time campaigning for Mark Funkhouser's light rail program than serving as Mayor of Raytown.

Now he is brown-nosing around County Executive Mike Sanders' rail plan because he wants the business for the company he works for.

Go figure! A guy who is such a fan for mass transit for ecological reasons sits by while his city's recycling program is dismantled!

Anonymous said...


You may have something there. I read that the company the mayor works for dumped a lot of money into the failed olympic bid in Chicago.

Times are hard everywhere.

Andy Whiteman said...

The US taxpayers dumped a lot of money into the failed Olympic bid in Chicago!

Andy Whiteman

Andy Whiteman said...


You published a link for the City of Raytown Community Planning Priorities Study but the link is the home page of the city's web site and not the complete link. I have no clue where to find it on the web site once I get there. Could you please publish the whole link.

The home page also mentions 2 budget proposals at the last BOA meeting but doesn't link directly. Again, I am unable to find them. It appears the city is trying to keep these secret as usual. An uninformed public better serves the Lords' of the Fiefs purposes.

Andy Whiteman

Andy Whiteman said...

I finally found the info I wanted on the City Website by doing a keyword search. They like to make things hard to find to keep it from the public.

Greg Walters said...


The link I used was the one the city mailed with their sewer bills. I agree with you about the city's website. You have to do some real "digging" to find out almost anything.

For instance, if you want to look at this year's budget all you really find is a power point presentation.

No comparison to previous year expenditures, income levels, etc. Makes it difficult to find out anything of any real value or interest.