BY GREG WALTERS |
Aldermen to Vote
on Extending Days for Shooting Fireworks
on Extending Days for Shooting Fireworks
FOUR
DAY PERIOD FOR SHOOTING OF FIREWORKS PROPOSED
Ward 5
Alderman Derek Ward has not wasted any time in bringing his first piece of
legislation before the Raytown Board of Aldermen for consideration. His proposal
would extend the number of days fireworks can be legally discharged within the
City of Raytown from one day to four days.
The
enabling language of his proposals reads . . .
Sec. 20-48. Limited use. The
discharge of consumer fireworks within the city limits shall be allowed only
and at the following dates and times: on July 4 or each year between the
hours of 10:00 a.m. and 11:00 p.m. unless July 4 falls on a Sunday in which
case permitted consumer fireworks may not be discharged before noon.
(a) July 2nd, between Noon and
10:00 p.m.
(b) July 3rd, between 10:00 a.m.
and 10:00 p.m.
(c) July 4th, between 10:00 a.m.
and 11:00 p.m.
(d) July 5th, between Noon and
10:00 p.m.
(e) December 31st, for 1 hour
beginning at 11:00 p.m.
The
ordinance also allows for the shooting of Roman Candles (which had been
previously prohibited).
The
proposed ordinance also removes the provision that the shooting of fireworks by
children be supervised by an adult.
(f.) Except for those dates upon
which the discharge of fireworks is permitted by Section 20-48, it shall be unlawful for any person under the age of 16
years, unless under the direct visual supervision of a parent, guardian or
other adult over the age of 25.
(c.) Small hot air balloons made of paper, plastic or other lightweight fibrous material, with an opening at the bottom and from which a candle is suspended, such items being commonly known as “sky lanterns”, “fire balloons”, “lava blimps” or, any other such device utilizing an open flame to provide loft;
The
ordinance was sent to the Municipal Committee which received the endorsements
of Ward 4 Alderman Bill VanBuskirk and Ward 1 Alderman Karen Black.
The
entire Board of Aldermen will meet on Tuesday, June 19th for final
consideration of the ordinance.
ANALYSIS: Shooting fireworks
off on the Fourth of July is American as apple pie. But we wonder if allowing
them to be legally shot off for four straight days is a good idea.
Supporters
say the police cannot possibly respond to the calls they receive over the
illegal shooting of fireworks. We completely understand that position.
However,
does extending the law to allow for four straight days create a situation of
the police not having to respond at all?
For
instance, will the police respond to the shooting off of illegal fireworks such
as bottle rockets and finned rockets and sky lanterns?
This
debate has slowly wound its way through the legislative process. An honest discussion
on how and if the police will respond to the use of banned fireworks has not
taken place.
Another
area yet to be discussed is the illegal use of fireworks in public parks. This subject
has yet to be broached by the Mayor or Board of Aldermen.
There is one section of the proposed ordinance
that needs to be deleted.
Paragraph
“f” allows for unsupervised shooting of fireworks by children. When you give
children explosives to play with that are powerful enough to maim or blind, adult
supervision MUST be required.
The
proposed ordinance, as written, does away with the requirement of adult
supervision of children handling fireworks. Some serious re-thinking on that topic should be the first order of business.
Paul’s Rant BY PAUL LIVIUS
TRANSPARENCY
Greg
has already covered the proposed changes to the shooting of fireworks. So I
will not bore you with my thoughts other than to say I agree with all he wrote.
Especially
the elimination of adult supervision of children shooting off fireworks . . . this
should be a no-brainer. As adults, we have a responsibility to watch out for
our children. That responsibility means we must protect them from themselves.
This
Rant is about something else.
I know
that Ward 5 Alderman Derek Ward brought this item before the Board of Aldermen
because we have been monitoring its progress.
I also
know that Aldermen VanBuskirk and Black have endorsed it.
However,
I only know these bits of information because I know how to drill down through
the volumes of minutes available on the city’s website.
But
truthfully, in an era when transparency should be a watch word of all forms of
government, this information should be shown on the ordinance. Most forms of
government, be it County, City or State, routinely post who is sponsoring a
particular bill.
The “why”
this should be done is simple.
The
sponsor of the bill becomes the point person to approach if private citizens
have a question.
It is
really that simple. I would add, it is also simple to rectify. So please, in the
future a little transparency would be appreciated.
The Paul Livius Report
Raytown Board of Aldermen Meeting – June 5,
2018
Mayor Mike McDonough gave a proclamation to Katie and Homer Radford, who generously
donated an easement in Southwood Park for a hiking and biking trail. This plan will link Southwood Park, Smith
Minor Park, and Kenegy Park with hiking and biking trails.
Fire Chief Matt Mace told the Board the
Fire Protection District had the ISO Insurance Audit. In 2012, the RFPD received a Class 4. This year, they received a Class 1. They are only one of three Districts in the
State of Missouri to receive this Classification.
Missy Wilson gave the Board the
six-month Financial report. For more information,
click on
The
Board approved a resolution approving the reappointment of Michael Hanna to the Raytown Park Board.
The
Board approved a resolution approving the reappointment of Chris Rathbone to the Raytown Park Board.
The
Board heard the first reading of an ordinance to amend city codes as they relate
to fire prevention and protectionfor the sale and use of certain consumer
fireworks within the city. The changes
will update the definition of dangerous fireworks and change the dates
fireworks can be discharged. The dates
will be updated to July 2nd, between Noon and 10:00 p.m.; July 3rd, between
10:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m.; July 4th, between 10:00 a.m. and 11:00 p.m.; July
5th, between Noon and 10:00 p.m.; and December 31st, for 1 hour beginning at
11:00 p.m.
The
Board heard the first reading of an ordinance to amend city codes as they relate
to addressing the board. The changes
will require those speaking to the Board to only give the city of residence
instead of full address. It will also
reduce the amount of time to speak to the Board from five minutes to three
minutes. Alderman Steve Meyers stated
he believes Raytown residents, Raytown groups, and those who have business with
the Raytown Board should have first priority to speak to the Board. All others should have their comments heard
at the end of the meeting.
The
Board passed a resolution authorizing a service agreement with Cochran Head & Vick
for accounting services in an amount not to exceed $60,000.During the City’s
search for a Finance Director it is necessary to have a service agreement with
Cochran Head & Vick who will be able to conduct consulting,
supervisory, support and oversight services in the Finance Department.
The
Board passed a resolution approving the purchase of computer equipment and
supplies from Dell Marketing off the Midwestern Higher Education Commission
agreement in an amount not to exceed $17,608.This will purchase 12 Dell
Workstations and 2 Dell Laptops. The
City utilizes an IT hardware replacement schedule, where eligibility is based
upon a 5- year replacement cycle. In some cases, if equipment is failing and/or
replacement of the equipment is preferable to repair, equipment may be replaced
in advance of the scheduled replacement. This computer replacement program
allows the city to forecast, budget and coordinate for leveraging current and newer
technology.
The
Board passed a resolution approving a service agreement with NRA Group for
collection of delinquent accounts associated with emergency medical services. In 2013, Raytown EMS began using Credit World
Services for the collection of delinquent accounts. At that time, that firm
accepted our accounts on the basis of an existing agreement with the City; no
separate contract had been entered into. This year, we published an RFP for
delinquent accounts collection. We received three proposals and concluded that
NRA Group, LLC was the best, as well as the lowest bid at a rate of 17% of
successful first-placement collections, compared with the 25% of the current
firm. Upcharge to 30% + costs applies for cases referred for legal action;
however, those referrals are at our discretion. We believe that as a larger,
national firm, NRA Group, LLC will be better positioned to maximize collections
in what is, at best, the very challenging market of delinquent EMS accounts.
The
Board passed a resolution amending the budget related to Parks and BMX. The BMX Board has been receiving donations to
rebuild their track. The BMX Board has requested approval of a budget amendment
to increase Other Income to $18,000.00 and increase Repair and Maintenance
Services Expenses to $18,000.00 for additional expenses to support rebuilding
the BMX track.
The
Board passed a resolution amending budget related to the Parks Department. On April 16, 2018 the Park Board approved a
motion to hire a Temporary Secretary for 10 weeks and request approval of a
budget amendment to transfer $5,000.00 Civilian Employees to Temporary
Staffing.
The
Board passed a resolution approving an amendment to resolution R-3066-18 and
authorizing additional expenditure of funds with Stantec Consulting Services.The
City of Raytown last received a comprehensive pavement analysis and condition
report in 2002 and has never had a comprehensive rating of sidewalks and curbs.
This proposed update will allow staff to establish a more comprehensive plan
for street, curb and sidewalk maintenance. This project was originally approved
by the Board of Aldermen on February 27, 2018 in an amount not to exceed
$35,850.00. During negotiations for the project it was determined that there
was the potential to fund some additional work at reduced rates if the project
came in on budget. Staff received an additional quote for supplemental services
in the amount of $8,840.00 to inventory the sidewalks, curbs, traffic signals,
rate the curbs and sidewalks in conjunction with the pavement analysis. The
amount of the original purchasing authority was $35,850.00 - $29,875.00
original contract = $5,975.00 unused. Additional work of $8,840.00 - $5,975.00
= $2,865.00 + 20% ($573.00) = $3,438.00. This will make the total approved contract
amount $39,350.00.
The
Board passed a resolution authorizing the professional services of storm sewer
infrastructure repair with Wiedenmann, Inc. The City of Raytown was informed of
a sinkhole in the side yards of 6500 and 6504 Harvard Avenue in the fall of
2017. The Public Works Department (PWD) crews investigated the area and began
work to determine the cause and severity. Staff determined that there are
significant separations and invert failures requiring the replacement of the
pipe from end to end. This project has some additional complications in that
there is an existing shed at 6504 Harvard located over the pipe, the driveway
at 6500 Harvard will need to have a substantial amount removed and replaced to
access the pipe, all adding to the potential cost of the repairs. Staff
negotiated permanent storm drainage easements for 6500 and 6504 Harvard Avenue.
Public Works staff reached out to Jerry Wiedenmann of Wiedenmann, Inc. to make
a site visit and begin the process of writing an estimate for the repairs. PWD
received the attached construction estimate from Wiedenmann Inc. on May 10,
2018 for $68,365.00. This is not a proposal or a not to exceed amount but, is a
construction estimate based on a time and materials cooperative agreement being
utilized through the City of Lee’s Summit.
The
Board passed a resolution authorizing acceptance of a storm drainage easement
from Christopher and SaraCosse in connection with the storm sewer
infrastructure repair located at 6504 Harvard. Public Works staff met with the
property owners of 6500 Harvard Ave several times to explain the storm sewer
project that is needed. In looking through Jackson County records, staff
realized that a storm drainage easement was not already in place. The staff
drew up the easement and had it signed by the property owners. The property
owner agreed to donate this easement to the City. City staff will record this
with Jackson County after BOA approval.
The
Board passed a resolution authorizing acceptance of a storm drainage easement
from JamesR. Smith. Public Works staff met with the property owners of 6504
Harvard Ave several times to explain the storm sewer project that is needed. In
looking through Jackson County records, staff realized that a storm drainage
easement was not already in place. Staff drew up the attached easement and had
it signed by the property owners. The property owner agreed to donate this
easement to the City. The City staff
will record this with Jackson County after BOA approval.
41 comments:
Fireworks are already used a few days before and after July 4 with seemingly no law enforcement. If fireworks are made legal for four days, they will still be used illegally on more days. Will there be any law enforcement?
I am personally against any fireworks use on any day other than July 4 as it makes my neighborhood almost unlivable with people setting off huge mortars that shake our house and terrify our dog. Consecutive days of this is not pleasant.
"When you give children explosives to play with that are powerful enough to maim or blind, adult supervision MUST be required."
You're dead on. Who, responsibly, would delete something so important?
One day however is enough to suffer the all the noise and pollution as far as we're concerned. We prefer the professional displays.
Enforcement of the fireworks ordinance is clearly impossible on the 4th and on New Years Eve. New Years is clearly the worst because of all the gunfire. The ordinance is more enforceable on the days before and after the 4th. Still, it’s like wack-a-mole trying to enforce the fireworks ordinances.
I think one day to shoot off fireworks is sufficient.
Extending the time is not worth the potential property damage and personal injury. I also pity the folks with PTSD who have to suffer through all that.
Take your fireworks out to the countryside where you won't bother us.
I hear Tony Jacobs is thinking of running for Alderman to replace Jim Aziere. As bad as Jim is, he would still be better than Tony Jacobs.
Maybe I was wrong about the current BOA. Please restore my confidence in you.
Vote down this bad idea. One day is enough. Also Adult supervision always when dealing with fireworks of any kind.
The crackdown should be on the nutcases who construct and set off the clearly illegal homemade bombs that shake our entire house.
Any other time of the year and the BATF might be looking into such firepower.
Let's have a safe Independence Day celebration.
We need term limits for aldermen.
Can we institute that now or do we have to approve a charter first?
"I hear Tony Jacobs is thinking of running...."
And his compadres are packing up their laptops and extra batteries for an upcoming confab. They're probably gonna be engaging in some kingmakin', as per the rights and entitlements bestowed upon them by our beloved US Constitution. Can't wait to be wickedly entertained by what rolls out of THAT think tank. More power to 'em all.
What is the reasoning behind extending the legal number of days that fireworks can be shot off in Raytown? The 4th of July is the day to celebrate! Three additional days is not only stressful for many of us, but especially for our animals as well. Aldermen, PLEASE rethink this! Also, why on earth would you remove the restrictions of having an adult present when children set off fireworks? Leave the current statute alone!
Why does we need computers? Back in my day pencil and paper worked just fine. Why change now?
Supervision of minors is extremely important not only for protection of property but also for protection of minors mis-using fireworks.
Anyone ever seen teenagers playing war with Roman Candles or bottle rockets? It is a scary sight. Bottle rockets explode at the end of their flight. Roman Candles are designed to be placed in the ground, but I have witnessed young people holding them like weapons shooting flaming balls of fire at each other.
Gunpowder is a volatile and dangerous chemical mixture. Want to make a bomb that will blow a good sized crater in the ground? Take a dozen box of sparklers. Crush and twist them together in a ball. Light a long fuse and run as fast as you can. You have created a very dangerous bomb. The sad part is, not everyone who is aware of how to do this trick has common sense. Some think it would be cool to light the ball of sparklers and throw them so it explodes in the air. Problem is, if the bomb is not thrown before a spark ignites the gunpowder, goodbye hand!
Whoever has conceived or endorsed these changes to our city ordinances has clearly not thought this through.
I urge our city council to vote down this ill-conceived and dangerous change in our city ordinances down on Tuesday, June 19th.
Everyone reading this message please, please, please show up a the city council meeting on June 19th to let your elected officials what a terrible mistake these changes are.
So there's an argument in favor of more days of fireworks that goes like this:
People already do it anyway. So what is the big deal?
To me that's like saying some people think it's okay to have a few drinks and then drive so why not just make it legal? Yes, I know that's an unfair comparison but the point is... don't change a law just because some choose to ignore it.
While I'm at it.
Why in the world is Missouri one of a handful (4) of states where it is still legal to text and drive??? That's just plain crazy!
Another name I hear being thrown out for alderman to take Jim's Azieres place if he chooses not to run again is Matt Cushman. this should be good because he has lots of skeletons in his closet because of his prior employment with the EMS..
Fireworks laws are impossible to enforce, and with a small police force even more so. Raytown is a very independent and freedom loving town that goes crazy over fireworks. On my block, there are at least 5 houses that shoot off fireworks. Now multiple this by all of Raytown. Get the picture?
The police are chasing ghosts during the Fourth of July holiday season when they could be fighting real crimes. By the time an officer arrives at a location, the residents have hid the fireworks, and most of the time the offending firework is not even being launched. The officer can not search the house for the illegal fireworks and cannot make an arrest without evidence. Get the picture?
I am surprised at all the "concern". Most politicians, and ex-politicians are aware of the difficulties of enforcing the fireworks ordinances, yet I sense some of this "concern" is being whipped up by some of the political elite here in Raytown.
@ 10:32
You don't need to worry about Matt Cushman. He is moving out of Raytown. What is more appalling, and I hope this is not the case, is that if you are a current or former Alderman, you are making mistakes that rookie elected officials are taught not to do.
What would real crime be?
Is that like handing out tickets for speeding?
Very cryptic messaging here. Pray tell. What intelligence has been handed down to rookie elected officials? Sounds like the old wise one has been awakened from a dream! Let us all gather at his feet and learn from the wisdom offered.
@10:14 pm
LOL. It's not cryptic towards the intended audience.....
11:42 If you think enforcement of fireworks is hard you should try to enforce grass that needs mowed and things that need painted.
"Only in Raytown" is there issue enforcing these issues, but we have no problem being the "City that Rocks"!
Maybe the people that find all those "rocks" should be enforcing city codes as the police and codes departments both seem extremely challenged.
Yes, there are alderman that need to be replaced. But overwhelmingly, the "mayor" and chief need to step aside. If they care about the City as much as they profess, a number of volunteer opportunities await them.
9:50 The question we should all ask before heading to the polls Aug 7th is how many tickets is the police department handing out on average per day.
If they won't take the time to do that they clearly don't need any other money from taxes.
10:28 -
I understand what you're trying to say, but you obviously don't understand how the city works. Any traffic fines collected goes to pay for the court system, i.e. the Judge, court clerk, bailiff, etc. None of it goes to the RPD.
Well, it finally dawned on me. Having a bit of a duh moment now.
I was wondering why oh why would any sensible person advocate for more days of fireworks? And roman candles. And no adult supervision???
I think it is like many things... follow the money.
Yup, more days of legal fireworks equals a significant increase in fireworks sales. So all the charitable groups selling them will take in more dough. Some persuasive type(s), likely connected with one or more of these organizations has gotten to the BOR, it seems to me.
So, it will probably pass and the voices of objectors will mostly be ignored. Oh they will toss a bone maybe such as requiring the adult supervision and maybe continuing the ban on roman candles, but the big deal for them is the increase in sales that will result.
IMHO,TI
Jacoby,
Yes, court collect, but since when does the money not get transferred to the general fund.
Good true to "TRUMP" our local voters!
Raytown Newbie
Only person making money on the firework sales is the person who operates the business.
The charities normally get a flat rate.
To those objecting about the fireworks ordinance- it was brought up as a topic of discussion at a public BOA meeting and I think on the agenda for the meeting. The first reading was done at a public meeting and it was on the agenda. No one was at the meeting talking about how they don't want the change, or there saying much about wanting it either. The agendas are posted on the city web site a couple days before the meetings, and the actual wording is a few pages, or many pages depending on the agenda. What I'm saying is, complaining about it here won't change it. Contact your aldermen and speak at public comments before the meeting- go to the people that can actually change it or vote for it.
As far as removing the wording that kids under 16 need supervision- seriously we need laws that supervise your kids with dangerous stuff?
Court fines go to the General Fund. Not to the Court.
Yes we do need laws to remind people of their responsibilities. Would you agree a minor should not drive a car? Are there regulations and rules to follow for children who play sports? Is there a problem in some parts of the metropolitan area where kids are dropped off at shopping venues like the Country Club Plaza and other shopping areas?
There may not have been anyone speaking up before the city council last meeting. But there have been plenty on this website and on other social media outlets in Raytown.
I agree people need to go to the city council meeting to speak up. But to ignore this conversation because it is not discussed by the public at a council meeting is a mistake for anyone elected to public office.
Maybe this will help. Here are the phone numbers to our elected officials.
Mayor McDonough 737-6005
Alderman Karen Black 356-3716
Alderman Frank Hunt 301-2829
Alderman Jason Greene 255-8407
Alderman Jim Aziere 521-9596
Alderman Mark Moore 590-3819
Alderman Ryan Myers 215-8847
Alderman Bill Van Buskirk 737-2799
Alderman Steve Meyers 739-9568
Alderman Bonnaye Mims 965-0141
Alderman Derek Ward 245-4022
Police Chief Jim Lynch 737-6020
Some are saying the free will folks of Raytown need more days to celebrate. They shoot the fireworks off now before the fourth so lets make it legal so the police don't have to chase their tails.
Kinda like the speed limit is now 65 MPH but most drive 70 so let's make the limit 70. So the limit was raised to 70 and guess what? Now most are driving 75.
If you make fireworks legal for 4 days we all better get used to fireworks going off for 6 or 7 days. Plus the annoying and illegal very loud explosives that the morons build.
BOR!! Please vote this bad idea down.
We have neighbors who sponsor a huge 4th of July fireworks get together. I think they invite half of KCMO (where it is strictly illegal to shoot fireworks off).
I really get tired of cleaning up all the bottle rocket and other rocket debris from my yard the day after. Some ends up on my roof. I am concerned how bad it will become if the law is changed.
BOR!! Please vote this bad idea down.
Pretty sure poster means BOA
Do you ever wonder if our city leaders are listening? If they cannot hear us, maybe that can read what we need to know. Here is a list of emails to reach out to the City Council.
Mayor_Mike_McDonough@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_Karen_Black@raytown.mo.us
alderman_frank_hunt@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_jason_greene@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_jim_aziere@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_Mark_Moore@raytown.mo.us
alderman_ryan_myers@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_bill_van_buskirk@raytown.mo.us
Alderman_Steve_Meyers@raytown.mo.us
alderman_bonnaye_mims@raytown.mo.us
alderman_derek_ward@raytown.mo.us
Please join me in telling them we do not want four straight days of fireworks shot off in Raytown. Tell them we believe children should be supervised when they use any product that has some form of gunpowder as the explosive agent. Tell them that Roman Candles are dangerous because even though the instructions say to stick the Roman Candle in the ground, some people actually hold them when they are firing their flaming balls of fire!
Tell them our fireworks laws need to be regulated to protect people from themselves, especially pre-teens and teenagers who do not always exhibit they have common sense.
Please go to the next city council meeting on Tuesday, June 19th at 7:00pm. At the beginning of each meeting they have set aside time called Public Comments. This is our opportunity to tell the city council exactly how we feel. If we do not show up. The our elected officials will use it as an excuse to make irresponsible changes to the laws governing fireworks.
@ 6:00 am
I am on the fence with this issue. Fireworks season has already started! Yesterday we had them going off in my neighborhood. I question if Prohibition like methods will work. I understand the sincere beliefs that many are expressing here. It’s human nature for many nowadays to ignore laws unfortunately. Nationally, the Police have never been able to stop illegal fireworks. Honestly, to stop fireworks in Raytown would require the National Guard. Nobody has a good answer to this problem. Feel good measures are fine, but in my view they accomplish nothing. I am going to obey the law no matter what. That’s how I was taught.
Just because we are city of old people doesn't mean we have to take all the fun away from young people who live here on the 4th of July. If you don't like it go away for the day or move.
7:10 wrote "Just because we are city of old people doesn't mean we have to take all the fun away from young people who live here on the 4th of July. If you don't like it go away for the day or move" Currently, it is illegal to shoot off fireworks in Raytown in June. So why should we old, law-abiding old people have to leave just because a bunch of no good parents allow their children to break the law?
I for one am happy to take calls on this matter or any other. But just to address the points raised above, I'll offer some explanations below:
1. I have several motivations for proposing this ordinance.
A. I love fireworks.
B. I love freedom.
C. I love celebrating freedom with fireworks.
Seriously, I operate from the perspective that people should be as free as possible. I am committed to reducing regulations. Currently Raytown has the least generous schedule for fireworks among its neighbors that permit them.
For example, Lee's Summit allows them July 2 - July 4. Independence is July 3-5. Raymore is July 1-4.
Accordingly, it is possible that people are avoiding Raytown for Independence Day vacations and gathering as they can join their friends a few miles away if they want to shoot of fireworks while they grill and play the first few days of July. This means there are likely tax dollars being gathered at the grocery stores and gas stations in those cities that should be staying put in Raytown. Probably not a lot. But it is reasonable to assume that some taxes are lost this way.
I know many people simply don't like fireworks. I get it. My grandmother was that way and my father still is. But they enjoy having the family assembled to celebrate and without fireworks, we'd have gone someplace else. I don't like loud music booming from cars or dogs that bark all night. Ditto for people that mow the lawn before I am awake. However, I live with those issues year round because it is part of living in a city. I don't expect everyone to conform to my preferences or schedules. I'm generally willing to live and let live when my neighbors are behaving reasonably.
Fireworks for less than a week per year is not unreasonable, in my opinion.
As for roman candles, I can find no evidence that they are any more dangerous than any other firework or any reason to treat them differently. Sky lanterns, on the other hand, which are allowed, have been responsible for a number of fires.
On a side note, one resident commented to me that there is a problem with people shooting fireworks in our city parks. I contacted our parks department and asked them if they'd considered hiring police or security to monitor the parks on the 4th of July. They are looking into the issue.
Please call me if you want to discus the matter further.
Who says we are a city of old people?
Young families move here all the time.
"bunch of no good parents allow their children to break the law?" YES! Right on!
Bad parenting is rampant. They are too engrossed in their phones and FB to notice or care what their kid are doing.
I am curious as to what the Raytown Fire Protection District has to say regarding the proposed change of the fireworks ordinance.
People, we are in the middle of a terrible drought. The fire danger is made worse by the high temperatures and wind. Even though the law says NO rockets or bottle rockets, they are shot off all over town. Some land on roof tops.
This potential 3 day increase in the legal days to shoot off fireworks is bound to increase the danger to property and bodies.
One of the primary purposes of a governing body (BOA) is to make laws that help to safeguard the health and welfare of the governed.
There is NOTHING in the proposed changes that help to safeguard our health and welfare.
I wish Chief Mace would speak up on this issue.
Hey old guy. I am a young person and I do not care for the changes being proposed. Should I leave town as well?
It is always a pleasure to hear from those like you when they give their words of wisdom.
This City continues to amaze.
Some real trendsetters and geniuses we have here.
One day of fireworks is more than enough.
Mr. Ward said...
"A. I love fireworks.
B. I love freedom.
C. I love celebrating freedom with fireworks."
YOUR personal preferences. There are many other ways to celebrate Independence Day besides days upon days of personal fireworks. Our preference.
"Seriously, I operate from the perspective that people should be as free as possible."
Seriously:
A. We enjoy the freedom to breathe clean, fresh, STENCH FREE air.
B. We enjoy the freedom to exist in peace and quiet, but will cede to 24 hours of fireworks. ON THE FOURTH.
C. We enjoy the freedom of driving down the a clean street without looking at literally tons of remnants of spent fireworks, discarded packaging and other litter in every direction.
And post-4th, let's hope for rain so that all the paper packaging will turn to goo and firmly adhere to the pavement and grass.
Multiply this garbage times what? Three? Four? more days? Are you kidding us?! Who is going to clean this up? THE CITY?
The City has literally thousands upon thousands in reserve to lavish on clean up for this additional capricious activity, after all.
Fuel up the street sweeper, and rent a couple more (we hear that they're very inexpensive!). Additionally, we suggest that any alderman that votes for extending this nightmare have their push brooms and work gloves ready for deployment. Otherwise, the additional debris will sit, dissolve, blow into yards for months on end.
"Accordingly, it is possible that people are avoiding Raytown for Independence Day vacations and gathering as they can join their friends a few miles away if they want to shoot of fireworks while they grill and play the first few days of July."
If they truly want to "gather", they'll "gather". If they want to go to the Lake, they'll go to the Lake. You're not going to alter anyone's behavior by revising this ordinance. It will have little to no effect on retail or City revenue.
"I don't like loud music booming from cars or dogs that bark all night. Ditto for people that mow the lawn before I am awake. However, I live with those issues year round..."
DING! DING! DING! Revise THOSE ordinances. Increase penalties. (Tick tock.)
"As for roman candles, I can find no evidence that they are any more dangerous than any other firework or any reason to treat them differently. Sky lanterns, on the other hand, which are allowed, have been responsible for a number of fires."
Fireworks are dangerous. Period. More days equals more injuries, more property damage.
"On a side note, one resident commented to me that there is a problem with people shooting fireworks in our city parks. I contacted our parks department and asked them if they'd considered hiring police or security to monitor the parks on the 4th of July. They are looking into the issue."
Fireworks in city parks. Tale as old as time. So let's multiply the number of opportunities for injuries, property crime, littering and disturbances. And let's further burden the already beleaguered police department and/or compel the Parks Department PAY out the nose for attempting to prevent or remedy some of the inevitable consequences.
Sounds like a plan!
Mr. Ward,
You believe that setting off fireworks for a few days indicates a level of increased freedom? You believe that because you are in favor of it.
What if I am opposed to the constant noise for days? How is my freedom served by 4-5 days of constant noise, being startled every time a large mortar shakes our house, or living with my wife who is constantly annoyed by it all?
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